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Is Kenyon Martin the final piece of the puzzle?

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Is Kenyon Martin the final piece of the puzzle? 

Post#1 » by your_dallas_mavericks » Mon Dec 19, 2011 4:13 pm

Darren brought this idea to my attention. With that Chinese team considering releasing Kenyon Martin, would it be possible that Cuban and he could get past their feud and Martin and Kidd could be reunited?

Martin would provide big man depth and that Charles Oakley-like toughness that the Mavs would need especially in closing out games. Martin could play at the 4 or the 5 or even both. He's a Dallas native and if given a 1 year contract could in turn help us to acquire/sign Dwight Howard and Deron Williams.
If we could just close games with Luka, Kyrie, Green, Maxi, and Wood that'd be great...
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Post#2 » by thierry » Mon Dec 19, 2011 4:23 pm

I don't think its a good fit. They need a bigger body if they get another big imo.
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Post#3 » by mffl_14 » Mon Dec 19, 2011 5:19 pm

Sounds like we are signing Sean Williams

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Post#4 » by dirkules_41 » Mon Dec 19, 2011 7:44 pm

Nice always been a fan of his. Tremendous physical upside as well as great finishing around the rim and rim protection on defense - just needs to keep his attitude under control.
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Post#5 » by 2011Champs » Mon Dec 19, 2011 7:50 pm

I bet Kenyon just goes back to Denver.
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Post#6 » by from_ro_to_dirk » Tue Dec 20, 2011 5:52 am

Kenyon would have been an option had we not acquired Odom. I'm sure Martin ends up in Miami or Lakers. Maybe Boston.
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Post#7 » by HMFFL » Tue Dec 20, 2011 6:27 am

Martin has openly said during the past he'd be interested in becoming a Maverick and that he has a house in the area. I believe he lives in the area during the off-season. Now, I expect contenders to only give up the minimum for him, but I think it ends up coming down to us or Denver. It makes the most sense unless he has property in other areas of the United States.
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Post#8 » by JES12 » Tue Dec 20, 2011 7:11 am

I bet he backs up Griffin in LAC, Gasol in LAL or Amare in NYC.
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Post#9 » by Darren » Tue Dec 20, 2011 12:00 pm

I think he could be Tyson-like starter instead of being a backup elsewhere. He can run, jump, and dunk like Chandler. He can easily beat out Haywood to become our starting 5. We can't afford letting the opponents put 2 defenders on Dirk all the time.
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Post#10 » by 2011Champs » Tue Dec 20, 2011 8:16 pm

HMFFL wrote:Martin has openly said during the past he'd be interested in becoming a Maverick

Thats news to me. I don't remember ever hearing that before.
I just don't think its very likely Dallas would have signed both Williams and Wright if Kenyon was an option.
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Post#11 » by lovethewire » Thu Dec 22, 2011 4:16 am

I'd like Kenyon here only because I think Odom isn't here beyond the deadline
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Post#12 » by thierry » Thu Dec 22, 2011 5:12 am

Darren wrote:I think he could be Tyson-like starter instead of being a backup elsewhere. He can run, jump, and dunk like Chandler. He can easily beat out Haywood to become our starting 5. We can't afford letting the opponents put 2 defenders on Dirk all the time.


What? Tyson is 7'1, Kenyon is 6'8
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Post#13 » by HMFFL » Thu Dec 22, 2011 5:55 am

lovethewire wrote:I'd like Kenyon here only because I think Odom isn't here beyond the deadline


If Odom's not here past the deadline it means we're trading for Deron Williams or Dwight Howard. Let's remember, Odom wanted to come here and he put the Lakers back up against a wall. He has a team option after the season that's reasonable but he'll probably want an extension. I can see us giving him one depending on the Deron and Dwight situation.
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Post#14 » by lovethewire » Thu Dec 22, 2011 6:12 am

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lovethewire wrote:I'd like Kenyon here only because I think Odom isn't here beyond the deadline


If Odom's not here past the deadline it means we're trading for Deron Williams or Dwight Howard. Let's remember, Odom wanted to come here and he put the Lakers back up against a wall. He has a team option after the season that's reasonable but he'll probably want an extension. I can see us giving him one depending on the Deron and Dwight situation.

I see Odom as nothing but trade bait, the only position we're stable at is pf in dirk so it makes no sense to lockup his backup long term
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Re: Is Kenyon Martin the final piece of the puzzle? 

Post#15 » by Darren » Sat Dec 24, 2011 3:29 am

Kenyon, we hardly knew ye
2011-12-24 07:46
By Sun Xiaochen (China Daily)

Martin leaves Xinjiang to return to US, but can't rejoin NBA yet

BEIJING - His vow to end the Xinjiang Flying Tigers' championship draught still lingers, but the man himself won't.

Kenyon Martin, the Chinese Basketball Association's (CBA) most expensive import, has ended his China sojourn prematurely.

Saying he needs to "take care of family affairs", the former Denver Nugget secured a buyout of his one-year $2.7 million contract and the club released him on Thursday, team manager Guo Jian confirmed.

"We have reached an agreement to let him go, but are still discussing some detail issues," Guo said on Friday before the squad's road game against the defending champion Guangdong Southern Tigers.

Those details apparently refer to CBA regulations on foreign players, and how much money Martin will pack home.

League rules state Martin must play the entire season before being able to opt out and join another league. Otherwise, the International Basketball Federation (FIBA) won't approve a clearance letter for any league under its supervision.

Although the NBA is not under FIBA jurisdiction, it will respect the CBA-FIBA agreement and won't allow Martin to ink a deal before his Chinese team ends its season in March, said Bai Xilin, director of the CBA's competition department

"We negotiated with the NBA side before the season tip-off. They have clearly agreed with us on this issue and promised not to use anyone who jumped out prematurely," Bai said.

Bai said Martin signed a notarized commitment with the team, promising not to play in the NBA until the Flying Tigers finish the playoffs.

Martin agreed to give up "a large portion" of his salary in exchange for leaving, said Guo, though he refused to specify how much.

The breakup appears to have been a chance to end a partnership between Martin and Xinjiang that hadn't been productive. Martin, who turns 34 next Friday, failed to be the dominant force the team hoped for, averaging 13.9 points and 9.7 rebounds in a league with few NBA-level big men.

Claiming he would help deliver the three-time runner-up a title, Martin instead performed below expectations on a team - which lost only one regular-season game last season - that is mired in fifth with an 8-4 record.

Martin's agent, Andy Miller, said the No 1 pick in the 2000 draft will fly back to the US for Christmas with his family, then begin workouts in hopes of landing an NBA deal once his Xinjiang contract has expired.

According to an ESPN report, the New York Knicks have shown interest in landing him with their $2.5 million exception. But a source close to Martin said it is too early to speculate on where he will land.

http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/cndy/2011- ... 319738.htm

OK, so when's available, we can start letting fire at the back of the wood. to take care of family matters, it's logical to think he'd opt for the Mavs instead of Nuggets or Knicks. He can sign him for 2 year deal with team option for the 2nd year. This would be a bargain by the deadline. I think, we can't probably land D12 without trades. He seems determined to join D-Will in NJN.

For the time being, I just hope to force Big Wood to earn his spot instead of playing lazy all the time. But it can't happen if Dirk can't defend like a 5. K-Mart have some hopes to suceed above Odom, Williams, Mahinmi, Cardinal and Wright. He's a shotblocker with high flying dunks as well as body strength. If he's in shape, he can easily stand out among the groups.
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Re: Is Kenyon Martin the final piece of the puzzle? 

Post#16 » by JustAwesome » Sun Dec 25, 2011 2:23 pm

I think Martin will sign for the minimum when the playoffs are about to roll around. It's just for the remainder of the year. He'll hope to help a contender win because that might help him score one last decent contract afterwards.

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